Curse

Dazzler · Aug 05, 2005, 08:03 PM // 20:03

JackOften - can you describe the build you are using and the combat strat you use? What skills are you using?

I ask b/c of your curious comment about essence bonding for no good reason...When I figh the Aatxe, I have Mending, Balt. Spirit AND Essence Bond and find that the Essence Bond helps my E nicely.

ImBobNewbie · Aug 06, 2005, 06:58 AM // 06:58

I have been running a build with basically same skills as Dazzler, even almost the same weapon, and the grasping squids are a problem again. Some people have suggested casting balth aura / ether before they come, but it doesn't seem to do too well because if you securely cast both before they come, one will last for about 9 seconds, the other for 8 seconds. (which won't be enough to do decent dmg) With 4 of them mobbing me, I even have trouble spamming a divine boon.

btw, I switch to 530 hp equip for the darknesses because they would interrupt the prot spirit and that'd be gg. For the aatax I use 105 hp setup with smiting staff with wrap of enchanting.

Dazzler · Aug 06, 2005, 03:48 PM // 15:48

Okay I can kill the darknesses now with my setup.
Same skills, but I acquired the -50HP item from the Cities of Ascalon quest so I have 55hp now. So I am no longer using the +18% enchantment item.

What I do is cast Ether Renewal, then Zealot's Fire, then spam Divine Boon to top off my E.
Then I wait for Ether to recharge. Just before it recharges, I cast Prot. Spirit, followed by Ether Renewal, then Balth. Aura. Then I aggro the squids.
Then Divine Boon my E back up--usually squids will waste their disrupt while I am doing this, then Prot Spirit again. Then just manage my E, casting Divine Boon when my HP gets low and Prot Spirit when it cycles: note, always spam 1-2 Divine Boons before casting Prot Spirit so they will waste their disrupts on the Divine Boon--and always immediately cast Prot Spirit when it is ready in case they interrupt you will have time for it to cycle again before your enchant wears off. Same deal with Ether, spam a divine boon or 2 before casting Ether. Once I have Ether I charge my E and try to get off a Balth. Aura.

I had to get off the computer before I could get much past the 2nd set of darknesses so I wasted 1p

But now I know I can do it.

Starbeast · Aug 09, 2005, 12:34 AM // 00:34

Woohoo

wiz12268 · Aug 09, 2005, 04:01 AM // 04:01

There is an e/mo build that will work, I have it, just not as crisp as the mo/w one(have that one too). But hint...think WATER magics.

Tevash Szat · Aug 09, 2005, 02:00 PM // 14:00

For my build you can get off 10divine boons during ether renewal which means that it would be only 170damage. So right now it would be 237(aura)+68(4 divine boon before renewal)+170(10 boons during renewal)=475dmg if you stop after ether renewal ends. When it ends, you will have full energy left and balthazaurs aura should be almost ready so you can cast it again with glyph of concentration and put in another 5 or 6boons for about 75damage making a grand total of 475+237(second aura)+75(5 boon)=787damage. This should work....

For this build, if you substitute the glyph of concentration with the symbol of wrath, it works very well for farming griffons and minotours.

As for the stuff about mistform, it does not work very well at all. The stuff in water magic does miniscule damage even to minotours and you can make it bvetter by putting some attribute points into fire so you would have points in fire,water,and wilderness survival. The problem here is that you dont have any points into energy storage. With quickening zephry on, 1 meteor shower will take like over 30energy to cast and by then you are bascically out of energy already. The mist form/qz combo works even worse with water magic since you cannot deal any even remotely decent aoe damage with them unless you use lots of energy. Maelstrom is nice but it costs 25energy and has a 30second rtecharge. All of the other aoes like frozen burst or iuce spikes doesnt give you that much damage when figuring how much energy you are putting in it.

Dazzler · Aug 09, 2005, 02:30 PM // 14:30

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Originally Posted by wiz12268

There is an e/mo build that will work, I have it, just not as crisp as the mo/w one(have that one too). But hint...think WATER magics.

It will work? Or it has worked? I ask because I've tried Mist Form and I die during the 7s it takes to recharge, or I get interrupted during the long casting time.

Do you mind sharing your build?

Dazzler · Aug 09, 2005, 02:45 PM // 14:45

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Originally Posted by Tevash Szat

For my build you can get off 10divine boons during ether renewal which means that it would be only 170damage. So right now it would be 237(aura)+68(4 divine boon before renewal)+170(10 boons during renewal)=475dmg if you stop after ether renewal ends. When it ends, you will have full energy left and balthazaurs aura should be almost ready so you can cast it again with glyph of concentration and put in another 5 or 6boons for about 75damage making a grand total of 475+237(second aura)+75(5 boon)=787damage. This should work....

What makes you think that should work? I can tell you from experience that it takes alot more than 2 auras and 20 boons to kill the aatxes. I usually go through at least 2-3 times that (I've never really counted) before they die. An Ele just cannot do it using Prot. Bond. You will never have enough energy to keep it up. Seriously, go spend some money and try your build out and see if it really works. B/c if it does work, it sounds easier to manage than mine.

Boubou · Aug 09, 2005, 06:44 PM // 18:44

Anyone tried and succeeded ? I wanted to try it on my lunch time.. but America didn't have the favor

It would be nice having a 2nd build posted on the forums for UW.. maybe the monk rune will go down a bit (I still need a sup. healing on my monk to play normal PVE)

Dazzler · Aug 09, 2005, 08:20 PM // 20:20

My build works but everynow and then I get unlucky with the interrupts and I die. I can get to the big room full of squids and aatxes and the 3 terrorwebs but usually then I screw up. I did get my first ecto last night on the aatxes

I think the monk build is definately easier than the Ele build since it does not require recasting Prot Spirit during the fight and thus is less susceptible to a run of interrupts killing you.

Boubou · Aug 09, 2005, 08:24 PM // 20:24

Thank you, I just hoped the favor will be for America when I'll be on

Rhys ap Llysgwr · Aug 10, 2005, 03:30 AM // 03:30

I have done a variant of this build, hats off to all of you who have developed it. I use the following:

Divine boon
Mending
Balth Spirit
Balth Aura
Zealot's fire
Ether Renewal
Glyph of Concentration
Protective spirit

And yes I use the -50 offhand Dazzler suggested.

The graspings are tricky and require good timing, but the attaxes get owned. Unfortunately I havent gotten to smites yet. Just as I was finally getting the hang if it (it takes pracice) I screwed up and died to teh last graspings before the smites and that was when Europe took favor (today).

But I am confident this will work on smites as well. Also I use the trick of refunding my healing after casting mending and boosting smite and prot each by one. The refunds come quick.

However it is SLOW, and when u solo not every creature drops. Better to duo with a smite monk who realizes the value of a nuker backing him/her up. The ecto/time will be much greater I think.

Kasperson · Aug 11, 2005, 02:08 PM // 14:08

-50 offhand? Where can I get that?

Queto · Aug 11, 2005, 02:19 PM // 14:19

Whirlwind?

Edit: OMG Just realised that this is an Air Skill lol

Maiyn · Aug 11, 2005, 05:34 PM // 17:34

Hmm, it is so difficult with an Ele.. simply because of the interrupts. They are brutal enough when you're playing a Mo build. It's the reason I stick with Mo/W because bonetti's is just too much of a friggin life saver.

There are earth magic skills that make them miss with their attacks aren't there? Perhaps that might be a good idea. I find the only think that lets me survive in the UW on a particularily unlucky run is the fact that 75% of their attacks will miss me while I'm using bonetti's defense. I am 95% sure that there is a Ele earth skill that lets you do this.

Not to mention crystal wave/aftershock/earthquake are probably some good skills to deal with the beasties.

Hmm.. I dunno though, it might just be too tough to sub in an earth ward though. I may have to take a look at the skills later to see if it's possible.. because that could be rather worthwhile.

I think in the end if you want to solo UW, the best thing to do is make a Monk.. i know that sucks.. but I think you'd all save time and money to just rush one through the game

Boubou · Aug 11, 2005, 06:06 PM // 18:06

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Originally Posted by Maiyn

I think in the end if you want to solo UW, the best thing to do is make a Monk.. i know that sucks.. but I think you'd all save time and money to just rush one through the game

How can I save money when I need to buy 5 runes at 44-80k each ?!

stumpy · Aug 11, 2005, 06:22 PM // 18:22

you can make that money back in 2 days that how boubou.

Boubou · Aug 11, 2005, 06:38 PM // 18:38

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Originally Posted by stumpy

you can make that money back in 2 days that how boubou.

Making back the money isn't the big deal.. in fact, I'm not worried about that.. it's making the money in the first time that concern me

I don't play a lot.. and I hate farming (which doesn't help me, but that is my problem isn't it?

)...

All that.. and I lost what I wanted to say ..

ibex333 · Aug 12, 2005, 12:56 AM // 00:56

Correct me if I am wrong, but i believe that "Iron Mist" is the answer to beating the Squids. at 11pts, it will last 14 seconds, which might be enough to own the squids.
How do I free the 11 pts? Simple. I take away everything from healing since mending is a waste IMHO. (only in this case off course)
There's enough healing from what you guys already have in your builds.
Please dont flame me if what I just said is complete nonsence, since I never tried to solo UW. EVER. just tryhing to think of somth that wil work. If what I just said dont work, please explain why.

Black Forsaken · Aug 12, 2005, 04:44 AM // 04:44

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Originally Posted by Torcher

I haven't tried your build yet Dazzler because Tevash Szat's cost me some money, i'm gonna go farm a little then i will report, it looks like it can do the job..but i got to see it to believe it

Thanks...I think that after this time of critqing each other's work we should have a vote on which build is the easiest. I am currently low on cash (buying 15k armor for 2 chars ISN'T cheap.) I want to farm the UW before they nerf it...the time is approaching..soo I don't really want to waste my money on trying yall's builds and failing, so I'd like to leave to it people like Torcher who actually know sometihng about these builds to suggest to me which ones to use. Thanks.